Albrecht Goertz - Revision history

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	The issue came to a head in the 1980's and Nissan released this statement about Mr Goertz's involvment with Nissan:		The issue came to a head in the 1980's and Nissan released this statement about Mr Goertz's involvment with Nissan:

	[[Image:Bmw 507 albrecht goertz p0019014-b.jpg\|center~~\|500px~~]]		[[Image:Bmw 507 albrecht goertz p0019014-b.jpg\|center]]

	==A Correspondence Between Toshikuni Nyui of Nissan and Albrecht Goertz==		==A Correspondence Between Toshikuni Nyui of Nissan and Albrecht Goertz==

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	The issue came to a head in the 1980's and Nissan released this statement about Mr Goertz's involvment with Nissan:		The issue came to a head in the 1980's and Nissan released this statement about Mr Goertz's involvment with Nissan:

	-~~--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------~~		[[Image:Bmw 507 albrecht goertz p0019014-b.jpg\|center\|500px]]

			==A Correspondence Between Toshikuni Nyui of Nissan and Albrecht Goertz==

	Dear Mr. Goertz:		Dear Mr. Goertz:
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	Legal Dept.		Legal Dept.


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	~~==Notes==~~


	==External link==		==External link==

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			[[Image:Graf Goertz.jpg\|thumb\|right\|400px\|Count Albrecht Graf von Goertz]]
	'''Albrecht Graf Goertz''' (en: '''Count Albrecht von Goertz''') in German (born January 12, 1914 died October 27, 2006) designed cars for [[BMW]] including the [[BMW 503]] and [[BMW 507]], both for 1955. He also worked for [[Porsche]], [[Nissan]] and [[Toyota]].		'''Albrecht Graf Goertz''' (en: '''Count Albrecht von Goertz''') in German (born January 12, 1914 died October 27, 2006) designed cars for [[BMW]] including the [[BMW 503]] and [[BMW 507]], both for 1955. He also worked for [[Porsche]], [[Nissan]] and [[Toyota]].

Argen at 19:18, 17 August 2007

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	Goertz's involment with Nissan ended in 1965. Later Nissan revived their sports car project which became the [[Datsun 240Z\|240Z]] of which Goertz had no further involvement.		Goertz's involment with Nissan ended in 1965. Later Nissan revived their sports car project which became the [[Datsun 240Z\|240Z]] of which Goertz had no further involvement.

	Before the Yamaha project, Goertz worked on the design for the first [[Nissan (CSP311)\|Nissan Silvia]] which was a limited production two-door sports coupe.		Before the Yamaha project, Goertz worked on the design for the first [[Nissan CSP311\|Nissan Silvia]] which was a limited production two-door sports coupe.

	People mistakenly believe Goertz was the man who designed both the 2000GT and the 240Z cars because it has been widly reported in the press as fact. [[Car and Driver]] magazine incorrectly calls Dr. Goertz the "Father of the Z Car".		People mistakenly believe Goertz was the man who designed both the 2000GT and the 240Z cars because it has been widly reported in the press as fact. [[Car and Driver]] magazine incorrectly calls Dr. Goertz the "Father of the Z Car".

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	Goertz's involment with Nissan ended in 1965. Later Nissan revived their sports car project which became the [[Datsun 240Z\|240Z]] of which Goertz had no further involvement.		Goertz's involment with Nissan ended in 1965. Later Nissan revived their sports car project which became the [[Datsun 240Z\|240Z]] of which Goertz had no further involvement.

	Before the Yamaha project, Goertz worked on the design for the first [[Nissan ~~Silvia~~ (CSP311)]] which was a limited production two-door sports coupe.		Before the Yamaha project, Goertz worked on the design for the first [[Nissan (CSP311)\|Nissan Silvia]] which was a limited production two-door sports coupe.

	People mistakenly believe Goertz was the man who designed both the 2000GT and the 240Z cars because it has been widly reported in the press as fact. [[Car and Driver]] magazine incorrectly calls Dr. Goertz the "Father of the Z Car".		People mistakenly believe Goertz was the man who designed both the 2000GT and the 240Z cars because it has been widly reported in the press as fact. [[Car and Driver]] magazine incorrectly calls Dr. Goertz the "Father of the Z Car".

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	Goertz's involment with Nissan ended in 1965. Later Nissan revived their sports car project which became the [[Datsun 240Z\|240Z]] of which Goertz had no further involvement.		Goertz's involment with Nissan ended in 1965. Later Nissan revived their sports car project which became the [[Datsun 240Z\|240Z]] of which Goertz had no further involvement.

			Before the Yamaha project, Goertz worked on the design for the first [[Nissan Silvia (CSP311)]] which was a limited production two-door sports coupe.

	People mistakenly believe Goertz was the man who designed both the 2000GT and the 240Z cars because it has been widly reported in the press as fact. [[Car and Driver]] magazine incorrectly calls Dr. Goertz the "Father of the Z Car".		People mistakenly believe Goertz was the man who designed both the 2000GT and the 240Z cars because it has been widly reported in the press as fact. [[Car and Driver]] magazine incorrectly calls Dr. Goertz the "Father of the Z Car".

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Corrected some incorrect statments about goertz's involvment with Nissan

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 Goertz then served in the US Army for five years. After leaving the Army he drove the Paragon to New York and while driving it he accidentally encountered [[Raymond Loewy]], the famous car designer. Loewy invited Goertz to his office, sent him to college to learn about design and later gave him a job in the [[Studebaker]] studio in Indiana.
-Goertz in 1953 set up his own design business and got to know Max Hoffmann, BMW's main importer in America. Hoffmann knew of BMW's plans to build a sports car and suggested that Goertz should contact BMW in Munich. Goertz then designed both [[BMW 507]] and also the [[BMW 503]]. He was also famously linked to both the [[Toyota 2000GT]] and the [[Datsun 240Z]] as he carried out consultation work for a two seater sports car project for both companies via [[Yamaha Motor Company|Yamaha]], initially for [[Nissan]], then also known as Datsun. When Nissan abandoned the project, Toyota adopted the project and put the car into production and once they finalised production for the 2000GT, Datsun then brought the project back to life as the 240Z which involved more of Goertz as he helped the design team to establish design parameters related to the physical size and configuration of the [[Nissan Z-car]] which also led to people mistakenly believing Goertz was the man who designed both cars. [[Car and Driver]] magazine refers Dr. Goertz as the "Father of the Z Car".
+Goertz in 1953 set up his own design business and got to know Max Hoffmann, BMW's main importer in America. Hoffmann knew of BMW's plans to build a sports car and suggested that Goertz should contact BMW in Munich. Goertz then designed both [[BMW 507]] and also the [[BMW 503]]. He was also famously linked to both the [[Toyota 2000GT]] and the [[Datsun 240Z]] as he carried out consultation work for a two seater sports car project for both companies via [[Yamaha Motor Company|Yamaha]], initially for [[Nissan]] (which exported cars under the brand name Datsun). When Nissan abandoned the project, Yamaha took the project to Toyota which with further work evolved into the Toyota 2000GT.
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	'''Albrecht Graf Goertz''' (en: '''Count Albrecht von Goertz''') in German (born [[January 12]], [[1914]] died [[October 27]], [[2006]]) designed cars for [[BMW]] including the [[BMW 503]] and [[BMW 507]], both ~~of [[~~1955]]. He also worked for [[Porsche]], [[Nissan]] and [[Toyota]].		'''Albrecht Graf Goertz''' (en: '''Count Albrecht von Goertz''') in German (born January 12, 1914 died October 27, 2006) designed cars for [[BMW]] including the [[BMW 503]] and [[BMW 507]], both for 1955. He also worked for [[Porsche]], [[Nissan]] and [[Toyota]].

	He was the second son to an aristocratic family in Germany from [[Brunkensen]] in [[Lower Saxony]].		He was the second son to an aristocratic family in Germany from Brunkensen in Lower Saxony.
	After attending school, Goertz was started an ~~apprenticed~~ to [[Deutsche Bank]] and then to a London-based private bank, but his prospects were not good, so in [[1936]] he emigrated to the [[United States of America]]. He eventually moved to [[Los Angeles]] and worked at a car wash and in a factory making aircraft engines. In 1938 Goertz rented a garage and showroom and modified [[Ford Motor Company\|Ford]] Model A and B models. On a [[Mercury ~~(automobile)~~\|Mercury]] chassis, he built a two-door coupe called the "Paragon". This was exhibited at the World Exhibition in [[San Francisco]] in [[1939]].		After attending school, Goertz was started an apprenticeship to Deutsche Bank and then to a London-based private bank, but his prospects were not good, so in 1936 he emigrated to the United States of America. He eventually moved to Los Angeles and worked at a car wash and in a factory making aircraft engines. In 1938 Goertz rented a garage and showroom and modified [[Ford Motor Company\|Ford]] Model A and B models. On a [[Mercury\|Mercury]] chassis, he built a two-door coupe called the "Paragon". This was exhibited at the World Exhibition in San Francisco in 1939.

	Goertz then served in the [[US Army]] for five years. After leaving the Army he drove the Paragon to [[New York]] and while driving it he accidentally encountered [[Raymond Loewy]], the famous car designer. Loewy invited Goertz to his office, sent him to college to learn about design and later gave him a job in the [[Studebaker]] studio in [[Indiana]].		Goertz then served in the US Army for five years. After leaving the Army he drove the Paragon to New York and while driving it he accidentally encountered [[Raymond Loewy]], the famous car designer. Loewy invited Goertz to his office, sent him to college to learn about design and later gave him a job in the [[Studebaker]] studio in Indiana.

	Goertz in 1953 set up his own design business and got to know Max Hoffmann, BMW's main importer in America. Hoffmann knew of BMW's plans to build a sports car and suggested that Goertz should contact BMW in [[Munich]]. Goertz then designed both [[BMW 507]] and also the [[BMW 503]]. He was also famously linked to both the [[Toyota 2000GT]] and the [[Datsun 240Z]] as he carried out consultation work for a two seater sports car project for both companies via [[Yamaha Motor Company\|Yamaha]], initially for [[Nissan]], then also known as Datsun. When Nissan abandoned the project, Toyota adopted the project and put the car into production and once they finalised production for the 2000GT, Datsun then brought the project back to life as the 240Z which involved more of Goertz as he helped the design team to establish design parameters related to the physical size and configuration of the [[Nissan Z-car]] which also led to people mistakenly believing Goertz was the man who designed both cars. [[Car and Driver]] magazine refers Dr. Goertz as the "Father of the Z Car".		Goertz in 1953 set up his own design business and got to know Max Hoffmann, BMW's main importer in America. Hoffmann knew of BMW's plans to build a sports car and suggested that Goertz should contact BMW in Munich. Goertz then designed both [[BMW 507]] and also the [[BMW 503]]. He was also famously linked to both the [[Toyota 2000GT]] and the [[Datsun 240Z]] as he carried out consultation work for a two seater sports car project for both companies via [[Yamaha Motor Company\|Yamaha]], initially for [[Nissan]], then also known as Datsun. When Nissan abandoned the project, Toyota adopted the project and put the car into production and once they finalised production for the 2000GT, Datsun then brought the project back to life as the 240Z which involved more of Goertz as he helped the design team to establish design parameters related to the physical size and configuration of the [[Nissan Z-car]] which also led to people mistakenly believing Goertz was the man who designed both cars. [[Car and Driver]] magazine refers Dr. Goertz as the "Father of the Z Car".

	==Notes==		==Notes==
	~~{{German title Graf}}~~

	==External link==		==External link==

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'''Albrecht Graf Goertz''' (en: '''Count Albrecht von Goertz''') in German (born [[January 12]], [[1914]] died [[October 27]], [[2006]]) designed cars for [[BMW]] including the [[BMW 503]] and [[BMW 507]], both of [[1955]]. He also worked for [[Porsche]], [[Nissan]] and [[Toyota]].

He was the second son to an aristocratic family in Germany from [[Brunkensen]] in [[Lower Saxony]].
After attending school, Goertz was started an apprenticed to [[Deutsche Bank]] and then to a London-based private bank, but his prospects were not good, so in [[1936]] he emigrated to the [[United States of America]]. He eventually moved to [[Los Angeles]] and worked at a car wash and in a factory making aircraft engines. In 1938 Goertz rented a garage and showroom and modified [[Ford Motor Company|Ford]] Model A and B models. On a [[Mercury (automobile)|Mercury]] chassis, he built a two-door coupe called the "Paragon". This was exhibited at the World Exhibition in [[San Francisco]] in [[1939]].

Goertz then served in the [[US Army]] for five years. After leaving the Army he drove the Paragon to [[New York]] and while driving it he accidentally encountered [[Raymond Loewy]], the famous car designer. Loewy invited Goertz to his office, sent him to college to learn about design and later gave him a job in the [[Studebaker]] studio in [[Indiana]].

Goertz in 1953 set up his own design business and got to know Max Hoffmann, BMW's main importer in America. Hoffmann knew of BMW's plans to build a sports car and suggested that Goertz should contact BMW in [[Munich]]. Goertz then designed both [[BMW 507]] and also the [[BMW 503]]. He was also famously linked to both the [[Toyota 2000GT]] and the [[Datsun 240Z]] as he carried out consultation work for a two seater sports car project for both companies via [[Yamaha Motor Company|Yamaha]], initially for [[Nissan]], then also known as Datsun. When Nissan abandoned the project, Toyota adopted the project and put the car into production and once they finalised production for the 2000GT, Datsun then brought the project back to life as the 240Z which involved more of Goertz as he helped the design team to establish design parameters related to the physical size and configuration of the [[Nissan Z-car]] which also led to people mistakenly believing Goertz was the man who designed both cars. [[Car and Driver]] magazine refers Dr. Goertz as the "Father of the Z Car".

==Notes==
{{German title Graf}}

==External link==
* [http://www.bmwworld.com/models/vintage/albrecht_von_goertz.htm BMW World: Albrecht von Goertz]

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